Стэнфордский тюремный эксперимент
У меня тут возник вопрос по поводу СТЭ, скорее даже к юристам, чем к психологам. Тут 
kat_bilbo запостила серию статей с опровержением эксперимента. Статьи, говорят, сомнительные, но меня зацепило одно конкретное место
“Now, okay,” Zimbardo corrected himself on the phone with me. He then acknowledged that the informed consent forms which subjects signed had included an explicit safe phrase: “I quit the experiment.” Only that precise phrase would trigger their release.
“None of them said that,” Zimbardo said. “They said, ‘I want out. I want a doctor. I want my mother,’ etc., etc. Essentially I was saying, ‘You have to say, “I quit the experiment.”’”
But the informed consent forms that Zimbardo’s subjects signed, which are available online from Zimbardo’s own website, contain no mention of the phrase “I quit the experiment.”
Zimbardo’s standard narrative of the Stanford prison experiment offers the prisoners’ emotional responses as proof of how powerfully affected they were by the guards’ mistreatment. The shock of real imprisonment provides a simpler and far less groundbreaking explanation. It may also have had legal implications, should prisoners have thought to pursue them. Korpi told me that the greatest regret of his life was failing to sue Zimbardo.
“Why didn’t we file false imprisonment charges?” Korpi asked during an interview. “It’s embarrassing! We should have done something!”
Что, в условиях эксперимента действительно в обязательном порядке должна быть предусмотрена возможность из него выйти в любой момент? Даже если речь идет об отыгрывании тюрьмы? Разве это не сводит на нет всю идею? Тюрьма может быть сколь угодно жестокой или гуманной, но выйти из нее по собственному желанию нельзя, иначе это не тюрьма.
kat_bilbo запостила серию статей с опровержением эксперимента. Статьи, говорят, сомнительные, но меня зацепило одно конкретное место“Now, okay,” Zimbardo corrected himself on the phone with me. He then acknowledged that the informed consent forms which subjects signed had included an explicit safe phrase: “I quit the experiment.” Only that precise phrase would trigger their release.
“None of them said that,” Zimbardo said. “They said, ‘I want out. I want a doctor. I want my mother,’ etc., etc. Essentially I was saying, ‘You have to say, “I quit the experiment.”’”
But the informed consent forms that Zimbardo’s subjects signed, which are available online from Zimbardo’s own website, contain no mention of the phrase “I quit the experiment.”
Zimbardo’s standard narrative of the Stanford prison experiment offers the prisoners’ emotional responses as proof of how powerfully affected they were by the guards’ mistreatment. The shock of real imprisonment provides a simpler and far less groundbreaking explanation. It may also have had legal implications, should prisoners have thought to pursue them. Korpi told me that the greatest regret of his life was failing to sue Zimbardo.
“Why didn’t we file false imprisonment charges?” Korpi asked during an interview. “It’s embarrassing! We should have done something!”
Что, в условиях эксперимента действительно в обязательном порядке должна быть предусмотрена возможность из него выйти в любой момент? Даже если речь идет об отыгрывании тюрьмы? Разве это не сводит на нет всю идею? Тюрьма может быть сколь угодно жестокой или гуманной, но выйти из нее по собственному желанию нельзя, иначе это не тюрьма.